Hello. the reason people are still using shrink even though, they sometimes have to use a third and fourth program, is because of its quality. the only transcoder that is as good as and faster is, nero recode2. i have clonedvd2, is a good program but, i'd not compare its quality output with that of shrink. it is not that shrink is that much better, is that shrink is better. 17 Jan 2006 @ 2:22Nero Recode2 or Shrink using deep analysis and AEC/ fabdecrypter or anydvd running in the background/ IMGBurn to burn/main movie only mode= perfect.